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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Baseball's Mitchell Report Reactions Reply with quote

Any baseball fans out there? Have you read the Mitchell Report that was released earlier today? I've read through most of it and I'm really shocked by some of the names in the report. Now, these are rumored names or possibiles, these are really names! In some cases, multiple eye witnesses, checkes, records, shipping documents, phone calls, etc.... I think most of the poeple listed don't have a lot of way of talking themselves out of it....

There are article all over the place, trying to find one that has just a list (instead a few names here and there)....

Some of the big names include Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Paul Lo Duca, Eric Gagne, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds....

Some former players like Lenny Dykstra and Benito Santiago, Jose Canseco...

One thing to note, Mark mcgwire is mentioned... BUT... most of his entries are in discussions about Andro.... which was legal at the time....

Just glad my hero wasn't on the list... of course, I wasn't too worried... Ryno had too much class and true love of the game (points for figuring out the nickname, not you Justin! Smile )....

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found a list of just the names:

The following players were connected to steroids, either use or possession, in the report:

Lenny Dykstra

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Tim Laker

Josias Manzanillo

Todd Hundley

Mark Carreon

Hal Morris

Matt Franco

Rondell White

Andy Pettitte

Roger Clemens

Chuck Knoblauch

Jason Grimsley

Gregg Zaun

David Justice

F.P. Santangelo

Glenallen Hill

Mo Vaughn

Denny Neagle

Ron Villone

Ryan Franklin

Chris Donnels

Todd Williams

Phil Hiatt

Todd Pratt

Kevin Young

Mike Lansing

Cody McKay

Kent Mercker

Adam Piatt

Miguel Tejada

Jason Christiansen

Mike Stanton

Stephen Randolph

Jerry Hairston

Paul Lo Duca

Adam Riggs

Bart Miadich

Fernando Vina

Kevin Brown

Eric Gagne

Mike Bell

Matt Herges

Gary Bennett

Jim Parque

Brendan Donnelly

Chad Allen

Jeff Williams

Exavier "Nook" Logan

Howie Clark

Paxton Crawford

Ken Caminiti

Rafael Palmeiro

Luis Perez

Derrick Turnbow

Ricky Bones

Ricky Stone

The following players were cited under "Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball."

Rick Ankiel

David Bell

Paul Byrd

Jose Canseco

Jay Gibbons

Troy Glaus

Jason Grimsley

Jose Guillen

Darren Holmes

Gary Matthews Jr.

John Rocker

Scott Schoeneweis

Ismael Valdez

Matt Williams

Steve Woodard

The following players were linked through BALCO:

Benito Santiago

Gary Sheffield

Randy Velarde

Jason Giambi

Jeremy Giambi

Bobby Estalella

Barry Bonds

Marvin Benard

Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TGQ8VG0&show_article=1
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would you have saved space by simply listing the players not on the list?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WDWFan wrote:
would you have saved space by simply listing the players not on the list?


That's funny Laughing list the players not on the list!! Laughing

Lots of players on the lists didn't surprize me but some did. Rolling Eyes
Will be interesting to see what MLB does if anything??

The new Baseball commisaner needs to send a message and he might want to start
with some of these names on the list to send that message.
The ones that you can prove of course.

But something needs to be done to show these guys that it will not be tolerated
otherwise it will continue to be an issue.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest: anyone proven is automatically banned from the Hall of Fame

Mandatory testing, multiple times a season, no advanced warning.

First time proven, suspended with out pay remainder of the season.
Second, Banned from the sport.

I'm willing to allow for an appeal if shown to be for valid medicinal reasons for a short term illness. If an illness requires long-term use, the player is benched until treatment is over. (with Pay.)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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